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Posted: 02 Sep 2018 11:34 PM PDT
A Lover Speaks By Cock Sir John Davies (b. 1569) Faith, wench, I cannot court thy sprightly eyes, With the base Viall placed betweene my Thighes I cannot lispe, nor to some Fiddle sing, Nor run uppon a high strecht Minikin. I cannot whine in puling Elegies, Intombing Cupid with sad obsequies. I am not fashioned for these amorous times, To court thy beutie with lascivious rimes. I cannot dally, caper, daunce and sing, Oyling my saint with supple sonneting. I cannot crosse my armes, or sigh ay me, Ay me Forlorne: egregious Fopperie. I cannot busse thy fist, play with thy hayre, Swearing by Jove, Thou art most debonaire. Not I by Cock, but shall I tel thee roundly, Harke in thine eare, zounds I can fuck thee soundly. 2 base viall] Bass viol; bass vial; base vile 4 Minikin] treble string of a viol; sweetheart 10 Oyling] flattering 11 Crosse my arms] stereotyped pose of whiny-ass lovers 13 buss] to oh-so-politely kiss 15 by Cock] common minced form of "by God." But the vulgar sense of "penis" existed then as well. |
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Il Sir giura sul "poenis" suo
Guerre stellari! Bella stellaria ad camenae modos
ph: Anselma Lo
Non vi resta che seguire questo link con UN clic,
e ringraziare l'esimio autore.
http://blogicarian.blogspot.com/2019/06/pluri-versiculi-latini-de-bellis.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheB
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blogicarian on the Net, the marriage of true mindes
ph: TroveRete Potenza in Lombardia
Let me not to the marriage of true mindes
Admit impediments, love is not love
Which alters when it alteration findes,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
O no, it is an ever fixed marke
That lookes on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandring barke,
Whose worths unknowne, although his higth be taken.
Lov's not Times foole, though rosie lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickles compasse come,
Love alters not with his breefe houres and weekes,
But beares it out even to the edge of doome:
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.
4 alters...finds] love that is changed when the beloved changes (i.e. ages) is not true love
bends with...remove] to change one's state when one's beloved is gone
5 mark] shipping beacon
8 whose worth's unknown] whose nature and substance (and also value) is beyond human comprehension.
his height be taken] its altitude is scientifically or mathematically calculated. "To take height" was a normal technical term in astronomy and navigation.
9 Time's fool] something for Time to laugh at, as a king would laugh at the fool at court.
12 to the edge of doom] until Doomsday. i.e. not "til death do us part" but till the end of the world.
13 upon me proved] proved against me. This is the language of legal challenge.
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L'ossessione poetica dell'antico anglosassone
ph: TroveRete, Cheers dello scheletro
Leoðes Ende
Swa æt ende ealdspræc stilede,
ongann sunne gesencan niðer,
ofer eorðan ealle sceadwa
lange nu lægon. Se leod aras.
Hæleþ of healle ham onetton.
The song ends
So at the end, the old story (or: old speech) fell silent, and the sun began to sink down. Over earth all shadows now lay long. The King arose. The heroes all hurried home from the hall.
La fine del re
Così alla fine, si fece silente l’antico discorso,
il sole iniziò a calare,
sulla terra ogni ombra
giacque lunga. Il re si alzò.
Gli eroi dalla sala si affrettarono a casa.
Il canto ha termine
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 10:06 PM PDT
Old English poetry is a love it or leave it thing. I've never known anybody to go "it's okay". Some people who learn Old English — for other reasons — just go "meh" or actively hate it. But the people who love it really love it. I wouldn't say it's my favorite literature on earth (that would probably be Classical Persian), but it's definitely up there and there's something about it that makes me keep returning to this tiny handful of poems again and again.
I said tiny handful, and I do mean tiny. There are only about 350 poetic texts that survive from the whole of the Anglo-Saxon period. (Most of what survives is quite dense prose.) Even if some of them are quite long like Beowulf (3180 lines) or Andreas (1720), their number is tiny. I think I've read all of them at one point or another, many of them more than once. (Some of them are honestly pretty mediocre). But it's a strange obsession, and a strange feeling of connection. When I read Latin poetry, I don't suddenly get the urge to compose Vergilian hexameters. But my notes are full of Old English verse composed by yours truly whenever I'm going through one of my OE obsessive periods.
Leoðes Ende
Swa æt ende ealdspræc stilede,
ongann sunne gesencan niðer,
ofer eorðan ealle sceadwa
lange nu lægon. Se leod aras.
Hæleþ of healle ham onetton.
The Song Ends
So at the end, the old story (or: old speech) fell silent, and the sun began to sink down. Over earth all shadows now lay long. The King arose. The heroes all hurried home from the hall.
One thing I've noticed is that other languages don’t have such an enormous gap between their medieval and modern forms as English does. When modern Anglophones read Beowulf or the Exeter book, the English language grows foreign to itself in a very strange way.
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On my first sonne
Farewell, thou child of my right hand, and joy;
My sinne was too much hope of thee, lov’d boy,
Seven yeeres thou’wert lent to me, and I thee pay,
Exacted by thy fate, on the just day.
O, could I loose all father, now. For why
Will man lament the fate he should envie?
To have so soone scap’d worlds, and fleshes rage,
And, if no other miserie, yet age?
Rest in soft peace, and, ask’d, say: here doth lye
BEN JONSON his best piece of poetrie.
For whose sake, hence-forth, all his vowes be such,
As what he loves may never like too much.
1 Child of my right hand] the Hebrew name "Benjamin" traditionally translates as "Right Hand's Son" i.e. the fortunate side. (The original sense in the Bible was probably "Son of the South").
5 Lose all father] lose all fatherliness.
9-10 doth lie...Ben Jonson his...poetry] Both father and son were named Ben Jonson. The syntax of this sentence is ambiguous to good effect. The beauty is that it is unclear just who is doing the lying, or laying, of what.
12] His vows be that he will too much like anything that he loves
Del mio primogenito
Addio bimbo mio alla mia destra, e gioia;
Peccai di troppe speranze, amato figlio,
tu sette anni fosti a me prestato e ti ripago
esatto il fato, il giorno giusto.
Potessi perdere paternità. Ché mai
lamentare fato da invidiare?
Sfuggito presto ai mondi e in carne furie,
e se non altre miserie, l'età?
Riposi in molle pace, e se richiesto, dì: qui giace
BEN JONSON la migliore sua poesia.
In virtù della quale da ora, siano i suoi voti tali,
che mai piaccia abbastanza quel che ama.
1 Il nome ebraico Beniamino tradotto per tradizione “figlio alla mano destra”, quella preferita. (Il senso originario nella Bibbia era forse “figlio del sud”).
9-10 Padre e figlio erano omonimi. La sintassi di questa frase è felicemente ambigua. La sua bellezza è che resta oscuro chi giace o mente (to lie può essere ambedue) e che cosa.
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To Thaliarchus in winter
ph: TroveRete, Rosmarino gelato
See how Soracte1 shines in the height of snowfall,
See how the toiling forests can hardly bear
their cold loads, how the streams stand frozen,
stilled with sharp ice in bewintering air.
Thaw off this cold. Throw logs on the hearth in warm
welcome, and be more generous with the pure
wine drawn from that old Sabine2 cask,
dear Thaliarchus, good host and sure
friend. Let the gods take care of the rest. Once they've
brought all the winds that brawl on the boiling sea
to heel, then nothing shakes the ancient
alder and beautiful cypress tree.
Ask not of what tomorrow will bring. Each day
fortune allows you, count as a blessed gain.
Young man, enjoy the sweet delights of
loving and dancing. Do not abstain
while your green youth is free of old peevish gray.
Now is the time for Campus3 and plaza too,
for nights of sighs and whispered nothings
when you and her keep a rendezvous,
Time for the lovely laugh from a secret corner
giving away the girl where she hides at last,
for the love-bracelet from a hand whose
fingers pretend to resist your grasp.
Notes:
1- Mount Soracte, a mountain north of Rome and visible from the city streets.
2 - Sabine wine, originating in an area near Horace's own farm. Not an especially expensive vintage.
3 - "Campus" i.e. the Campus Martius or Field of Mars.
1- Mount Soracte, a mountain north of Rome and visible from the city streets.
2 - Sabine wine, originating in an area near Horace's own farm. Not an especially expensive vintage.
3 - "Campus" i.e. the Campus Martius or Field of Mars.
Vidēs ut altā stet nive candidum
Sōracte, nec iam sustineant onus
silvae labōrantēs, gelūque
flūmina cōnstiterint acūtō.
Dissolve frīgus, ligna super focō
largē repōnēns atque benignius
dēprōme quadrīmum Sabīnā,
ō Thaliarche, merum diōtā:
permitte dīvīs cētera, quī simul
strāvēre ventōs aequore fervidō
dēproeliantīs, nec cupressī
nec veterēs agitantur ōrnī.
Quid sit futūrum crās fuge quaerere et
quem Fōrs diērum cumque dabit lucrō
appōne, nec dulcīs amōrēs
sperne puer neque tū chorēās,
dōnec virentī cānitiēs abest
mōrōsa. Nunc et campus et āreae
lēnēsque sub noctem susurrī
compositā repetantur hōrā,
nunc et latentis prōditor intumō
grātus puellae rīsus ab angulō
pignusque dēreptum lacertīs
aut digitō male pertinācī.
Παῦλος ὁ Σιλεντιάριος, Ἐπίγραμμα : Il mio nome è ... (ci importa?) / My name is...(do we care?)
᾽Οὔνομά μοι … «Τί δὲ τοῦτο;» Πατρίς δὲ μοι … «Ἐς τί δὲ τοῦτο;»
Κλεινοῦ δ’ εἰμὶ γένους. «Εἰ γὰρ ἀφαυροτάτου;»
Ζήσας δ’ ἐνδόξως ἔλιπον βίον. «Εἰ γὰρ ἀδόξως;»
Κεῖμαι δ’ ἐνθάδε νῦν. «Τίς τίνι ταῦτα λέγεις;»
Epigramma
Il mio nome
è ... (ci importa?) e mio luogo di nascita
fu...
(davvero, a chi può importare?) vengo
da nobile
lignaggio che posso tracciare
sommo... (e se tutti loro fossero schifezze?)
terminai la
vita in buona reputazione (ci fregherebbe
se tu la
lasciassi con infamia?)
e ora in
morte giaccio sotto questa tomba
(aspetta,
chi è che parla veramente? e a chi?)
My name is...(do we care?) And my birthplace
Was....(seriously, who cares at all?) I come
From noble lineage that I can trace
To great...(and what if all of them were scum?)
I ended life in good repute (would we
Care if you quit this world in infamy?)
And now in death I lie beneath this tomb
(Wait...who is speaking, really? And to whom?)
Paulus Silentiarius, Epigramma interruptum
Translated by A.Z. Foreman
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